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Living in Korea

June 20, 2011 by Guest Writer 15 Comments

My next guest poster is Megan who blogs at Megan Dub-Yuh.  She is an Army wife & Math teacher living in Korea right now. Thanks so much for the post Megan!

living in koreaLiving in Korea

We have lived in Korea for a year now.  Adam had been here a year before that,  unaccompanied.  We were drawn to the promise of 2 full years together without that big D word looming over our heads after Adam was sent here to heal from a broken ankle he received while training for the big D to Iraq.  (I am very grateful for that rod and 6 screws in his leg.)

Living in Korea
It has been a new challenge almost daily to live in country whose culture is so different from our own.  It can be very frustrating at times but when all is said and done my husband comes home at night and almost works regular hours (with the exception of a few TDYs).  When put in to that perspective I will deal with any cultural or language frustration.

When I began thinking about this post on what it is like to be stationed in Korea I began thinking about posts I have already made.  {If you would like to read any of them check out posts under the label Korea.  It has been pretty entertaining at times.}  But in the end I have decided to poll my followers on Twitter and see what they wanted to know about being stationed here.  Below are those questions and my answers to them (most of the answers apply to my experience with our location and the Army).

How hard is it to bring animals over?
It is a challenge but not impossible.  We have three yorkies and we decided to not bring them but left them with my parents.  When deciding whether we were going to bring them we took a few things in to consideration: housing, travel, and vet services.

Even though Adam was here already they wouldn’t let him get housing for the both of us until I was physically in the country.  I was coming in during the peak time for PCS and so we didn’t know if we would be living on post (where they have very strict animal noise regulations), in an apartment off post or what.  There was no telling if we would be able to find a place that was three yorkie friendly.  Also, there are no yards anywhere in Korea so if you have a pet that requires one don’t bring them.  Most Koreans, that do have pets, have small dogs since most Koreans live in apartments.

I was flying here via a 20 hour commercial flight.  The thought of taking my babies on that was overwhelming plus they only allow one dog per person in the cabin.
Finally, the vet services on post weren’t well established when we started to plan our move here.  They have become more established since getting here but we would probably have had to try and find an English speaking Korean vet regardless.
Lastly, if there is to be a civilian evacuation there are many regulations and very specific things you have to have done in order for you to get your pet evacuated.  They will be evacuated at a lower priority than you and your stuff so once you leave them in the pet area you won’t know about them again for a while.  More stress I wouldn’t want to deal with in the event of an evacuation.

What if you don’t like Korean food?
If you don’t like Korean food then you can eat on Post.  There is all of your normal food court fare.  BUT you are bound to find some Korean food that you like.  It isn’t all kimchi and spicy fish… even though that is a large part of their diets.  My favorite is Samgyupasal, or Korean bacon, cooked on a table grill and served with Kimchi, salad and roasted garlic.

Is it hard for the spouse to find a job?
Yes, it is very hard.  They do not have jobs for spouses on post and any jobs available that you may be qualified for are given first priority to Koreans because of the agreement we have with their country.  Korea has a ridiculously high unemployment rate and to get a job on post is amazing for them.  Before you get upset at this discrimination just keep in mind they will live here in this country that it is impossible to get a job in even if with a specialized degree and you are here temporarily.  Working off post will require you to get special work permissions added to your Visa and if it is a job that a Korean can do, again, they probably will deny you the permission.

What kinds of schools are available for kids?
If you are Command Sponsored (and I would recommend you only come here with your husband if you are Command Sponsored) there are the DoDDs schools on post.  Otherwise you will have to enroll your child in a Korean or International School which could cost you a lot of money.

How is the TriCare system there? Dentists?
There is a medical shortage here and it takes FOREVER to get an appointment on post and they only book two weeks out so hopefully whatever time they have available works for you else you will have to call back over and over again.  They also have very little equipment on post and if you have to have any tests done they probably will send you off to a Korean partner hospital, which is a whole new experience (not necessarily bad) of its own.
Once you get an appointment or if you have to go to the after-hours care clinic (ER) then you will have a short waiting room wait and very friendly, efficient service.
As for the dentists, I’m ashamed to say that I have yet to figure out how to make a dentist appointment.  It seems to be very convoluted and everyone I talk to tell me a different thing.

Are the locals friendly toward military families?
We have not encountered any animosity towards us.  If anything the woman are always telling Adam how handsome he is even if I am standing right there.  They also like to dig in your shopping cart if you are at their grocery stores.  They are just super curious to see non-Koreans most of the time.  In fact, a friend of mine had an old man tell her that although he had seen it on tv he didn’t believe people really had round eyes.

What size are the houses on base/post and off post? Will a kingsize bed fit?
The houses are super small.  Korea is a very crammed place and the people are generally pretty efficient and Spartan.  But if you think about it the country has a population of about 49 million people in the size of the state of Kentucky.  So, when trying to figure out what to have the packers send to your new home in Korea go with the bare minimum.  We lucked out and got a larger than average home outside the city we live in.  They have super small closets, cabinets, etc.  We brought a lot more than we needed and if we had moved in to the apartment that we originally thought we were going to then we wouldn’t have had enough room (we only brought about 1/3 of our HHG from our 2000 sq ft home in Texas).  As for a king size bed the answer is yes but there may not be any room for anything else in your bedroom if you do.

Is the water potable, or should you drink bottled water?
The tap water is safe to drink but it isn’t recommended.  It is full of extra minerals that we were told have caused Americans to have allergic reactions.  We cook with and bathe in it with no problem but for drinking we have a water filtration system that our land lords installed and that we pay about $20 a month to have.  It is serviced by a funny little lady every 3 months.  It also has instant hot water which is awesome.  I want one when we get back to the States.

How expensive is it to take vacations (not CONUS) to other countries?
To travel to other countries in Asia is pretty inexpensive.  Since you are so much closer the airfares are cheaper.  One thing to keep in mind is that many countries require for Americans to have Visas purchased and approved before traveling.  Some of these Visas are expensive (China is about $200 a person).

Traveling within Korea is infinite and also very cheap especially if you can stay on one of the many military installations throughout the peninsula or off the beaten tourist path.  There is relatively low crime here.  There is occasional pick-pockets, etc, in the touristy areas of the big cities but you really don’t have too much to worry about.  If you decide to stay in one of the “love” hotels which can be nice, inexpensive accommodations you could see human trafficking, which is a very real problem here.  So, just be careful.

Is it worth shipping your car over or should you buy one there?
Yes, it is worth shipping your car over here.  Cars are very expensive unless you can get one of the many OLD beaters on post, which if you need a second car you will have to do that.  Traveling by car is a lot more convenient than traveling by the vast public transportation systems that are available here and all of the signs are in Korea.  If you do drive in Korea you should definitely invest in an English-speaking GPS, it is well worth the money.  Driving here is a lot like playing Grand Theft Auto and you are guaranteed to get lost or miss your turn many times.

Living in Korea

What are no-nos in Korean culture that are fine in American?
For more information check out the book Rude American, Rude Korean.

What we do…

  • Writing someone’s name in Red ink.
  • Pointing
  • Sticking your fork in your food to rest it when not using it.
  • If you use the middle finger they won’t know you are insulting them.

 

What they do…

  • Cut in line.
  • Not make lines at food carts they just yell out their order.  So don’t wait your turn.
  • Run red lights.
  • Drive on the sidewalk.
  • Walk out in front of moving cars while holding their hands out expecting you to just stop.
  • Stare like you are a rare zoo animal.
  • Their version of the middle finger is to ball their hand up in a fist and point their thumb at you.
  • They don’t make their children behave and be quiet in public… they basically ignore them.
  • Park anywhere… even in the middle of a busy street.
  • Old ladies will grab children’s butts… even your children that they don’t know.
  • Pretend like they don’t understand you whether you are speaking English (and they do, too) or you are speaking Korean.

 

Filed Under: Duty Stations, Guest Post, Military Life, Pcs, Stationed Overseas Tagged With: duty station, guest post, Overseas

Space-A Part 3 The Return Trip

May 13, 2010 by Julie 4 Comments

 

my experience flying Space-AI have posted about my Space-A trip that I took last summer.  Space-A part 1 and Space-A part 2.  But I haven’t posted about the return trip.  Since it is almost summer again I figured I better post it before I forget too much 🙂

 

After spending a wonderful summer in California it was time to head back to Germany.  Instead of trying to get a flight out of Travis AFB which is about 8 hours from where I was, I took a commercial flight to Charleston, SC to meet up with my friend who was heading back to Germany too.  I had a hotel booked in the city so when we got to the airport we just had to get the van to the hotel.  I was so tired once we got in that I was glad my plan was to meet my friend the next day.

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The next morning I woke up and called a van to take us to the Air Force base.  He picked us up and dropped us off right in front of the Pax Terminal where you catch your flights.  Inside the terminal they do have a kids room with toys, cribs and tvs.  That was nice.  We chilled there for a few hours and then decided to get something to eat.

 

I decided to walk the boys to Burger King.  Well it was about a 10 minute walk and we get there and it was closed.  Keep in mind it was the end of August in Charleston so it was very hot and humid but also suppose to rain.  Also keep in mind that you must have all your bags with you at all times.  Not fun to walk anywhere!

 

We went back to the Pax terminal and just decided we would get stuff from the vending machines until my friend got there.  Well the problem with that is that it only took $1.00 bills and I had a bunch of $5s and no one would give me change.  It was so frustrating.  I asked the guy at the counter if there was any place to get change and he told me the bowling ally.

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So we got all our stuff and headed there.  Another 10-15 minute walk.  We get to the bowling ally just in time for it to start pouring down rain.   They had a little food place in there so I decided to feed us and just relax.  After we ate we bowled a little bit.  I think we spent about 3 hours there just killing time.

 

We made it back to the terminal at about 6ish and I was hoping my friend would be there soon.  Well by 9 she still hadn’t showed.  I was getting worried.  I couldn’t get ahold of her at all.  I didn’t know if I should go for a hotel or wait there.  The boys were getting crazy and I had a major “why did I decide to do this crazy thing?”meltdown.

 

At about 10pm my friend finally made it.  She had been in a minor car accident and that was why she was later than she had planned.  It was so stressful for both of us that we decided to skip the first flight out they had the next day.  That was probably our mistake but it was what we decided to do at the time.

 

We ended up having to stay the night in the terminal which was ok for the boys but I hardly slept at all.  The next day we were able to get a hotel on post which was really a house.  It was very nice.  We all got to shower and rest a little bit.

 

Well what ended up happening was the flight we were trying to get out on kept getting cancelled and changed to the next day.  It was suppose to leave on a Thursday and we finally left on the next Tuesday.  This was so hard and why I would never do Space-A again with small kids.  Just the waiting and wondering, having to find a hotel, not knowing if we were really going to fly each day.  We would call each morning only to find out that the flight had been moved again.  Thank goodness we were together.  I don’t know what I would have done if I was without another adult.

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We finally flew into Spangdahlem, Germany 6 days after I had arrived in Charleston.  That was when it got even more frustrating for us.  I will talk about that in the next post.

Filed Under: Deployment, Military Life, Stationed in Germany, Stationed Overseas Tagged With: germany, living overseas

One Little German Village, Erbendorf

March 10, 2010 by Julie 1 Comment

I wanted to post about where we use to live.  Now that we don’t live there anymore I feel more comfortable talking about it.We use to live in Erbendorf which is about 25 minutes from the Grafenwoehr Army post in Bavaria.

We use to live in Erbendorf which is about 25 minutes from the Grafenwoehr Army post in Bavaria.

The village is cute.  It’s small.  Really small.  The people are friendly.  Lots of cute places to walk.

We lived living off post in Germany outside of Graf. We lived in Gov’t leased housing.  Which in Germany means living off post but the Army runs the house.  You don’t pay rent or utilities.

When we lived in Schweinfurt, we lived on post.  So this was a chance to live off post.  I am glad I got to experience both while we were overseas.  Living off post in Germany can be great because you do get to interact with more of “real” Germany.   What I didn’t like about where we lived was that we were so far from post.  It made it really hard especially since it snows so much in the winter.

Here are some pictures of our little village 🙂

 

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living off post in germany

 

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living off post in germany

 

living off post in germany

 

living off post in germany

And let me tell you, it does feel odd seeing these pictures now that we are back in the US.  Weird that this little village is now apart of my past.

 

Filed Under: Stationed in Germany, Stationed Overseas Tagged With: germany, stationed in germany, stationed overseas

So Long, Farewell, Auf Wiedersehen Goodbye…

March 3, 2010 by Julie Leave a Comment

Germany

Well…it’s time.  This will be my last post from our home here in Germany.  Our internet is being turned off tomorrow.  I have a Kindle I can post from so I will try to blog again soon but not totally sure about when.

Tomorrow I say goodbye to all my friends 🙁  That will be hard.

Then it will be time to leave.  Pray for us on our long journey.  It is going to take forever to get there.  But then we will be in America again and I will be super happy 🙂

I think the boys pretty much know what is going on.  They seem pretty ok about it all so far but we will see.  Usually when a big change happens they just can’t sleep well.   They are excited about going on an airplane but I think they think we are going to end up at Grandma’s or Disneyland.

Our family is officially closing the Germany chapter of our lives…and what a weird feeling that is.

 

 

Filed Under: Stationed in Germany, Stationed Overseas Tagged With: stationed in germany, stationed overseas

Garmisch in Germany

March 3, 2010 by Julie Leave a Comment

Garmisch, Germany

 

Garmisch, Germany
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Filed Under: Stationed in Germany, Stationed Overseas Tagged With: germany, travel

Things to do in Germany with Kids : Playmobil Park

January 26, 2010 by Julie 2 Comments

Playmobil Park

I grew up playing with Playmobil and I love the stuff.  We have been collecting it the whole time we have been married.  Now both of my boys LOVE it.  It is everywhere in Germany and they even have a Theme park.  We took the boys there for my son’s 4th birthday.

There are so many fun things for the kids to do.  It’s great!  Lots of water play and climbing fun.  They also have this huge inside area where they have almost every set they ever made for the kids to play with.  It is all set up by theme too.  So pirates in one section, Egypt in another.  They even have places for the toddlers to play with the special toddler sets.  I believe that part is open throughout the whole year but the outside stuff is closed in the wintertime.

Here is the link for all my friends living in Germany…

Playmobil Park in Germany

It is just outside of Nürnberg.

They also have one in France, Malta, Greece, Palm Beach & Orlando.  Playmobil Parks

Playmobil Park in Germany

Playmobil Park in Germany

Playmobil Park in Germany

Playmobil Park in Germany

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Filed Under: Stationed in Germany, Stationed Overseas Tagged With: army wife blog, germany, military living, military wife

Auf Wiedersehen and Goodbye

January 6, 2010 by Julie Leave a Comment

Life in Germany

We have less than 2 months in Germany! About 8 weeks left!  In some ways, it seems hard to believe.  That we will get on an airplane and our time here will be over. On the other hand, it is a long time coming and I am so ready to live in the US again.

I will miss the bakeries, the church bells and the whole experience of living somewhere in Europe however I am really looking forward to a lot of things I have missed.

Here is my list:

Target

Starbucks (They have these in Germany but not anywhere near where we live)

Favorite Restaurants

Non APO address

Finding a real church to attend

American Houses (I think the German style is cool but just isn’t for me)

Not struggling with not knowing the language

A new cell phone

Not living 30 whole minutes from anything American

Not having it cost over $3,000 to go home and see my family

Having my family be able to come visit often

Only being 2 hours time difference from my family

Seeing my friends in KY again.  It’s been 4 years 🙁

Barnes and Noble

The mall

Not feeling the pressure to go out and see something because it is Europe.  (This might sound weird but being in Germany I feel like we have to go out and see things all the time and when we don’t I feel like I am not taking advantage of living here.  And that is just stressful to me.)

Stores open late and on Sundays

Mail being delivered to my own house

Being able to sell on Ebay again

Going to Old Navy vs having to order online

Did I say Target?

There are reasons that I am “done” here that have more to do with where we live in Germany vs Germany itself.  Living out in the middle of nowhere is no fun in the winter with all this snow.  And since we only have 1 car too, that makes it even harder.

So the next few weeks will be spent getting ready for the movers and all that fun stuff.  I am excited.  It is time to go.  And as I write this I start to cry because we do have to say goodbye.  We will no longer live in this house.  No longer see the friends I have made here.   And the chapter in our lives called “Germany” will be over. So many mixed emotions.  So many memories the last 4 years, both good and bad.  Germany is where my son was born and where my love of photography turned into a passion.  It is where we had our first & second deployments and it will always have a special place in my heart.

But it’s time to move on and make new memories in a new place.  And I can finally see what it is like to be an Army Wife in the United States.

Auf Wiedersehen 🙂

 

Filed Under: Stationed in Germany, Stationed Overseas Tagged With: army wife, army wife blog, germany, stationed overseas

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Welcome to Soldier’s Wife, Crazy Life! I am so glad you are here.

My name is Julie and I first became a military spouse in 2005 when my husband of 3 years re-joined the Army. Then, in 2014, he joined the National Guard. In January of 2024, he retired from the National Guard after 21 years of service.

During our time in the military, we got to spend 4 years in Germany as well as Tennessee where we now call home.

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